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tasos

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Η γνωστή εταιρία "Primordial Performance" (βγάζει ήδη το καλό Toco-8) σε συνεργασία με κάποια μέλη απο το Regrowth.com
ετοιμάζεται να βγάλει ένα "δυνατό" topical και ζητά εθελοντές για την δοκιμαστική φάση του προΐοντος:


HairGen θα είναι το όνομα του.

Begins May 11, 2009



All of the ingredients have been sourced, and now it's time to gather the volunteer base. The price to participate in this trial is $30 + S&H. It is a paid trial to help offset the cost of the product, organization of data, and to help ensure dedication from the participants.

If you're interested in being a part of the trial, there will be approximately 180 spots.

To enter the trial, please make sure that you meet the following requirements –

Abstain from introducing/discontinuing any hair loss drugs or topical treatments from now, until the end of the Hairgen Trial. (Approx. for the next 6 months)

Submission of the requisition form

Submission of a close up picture(s) of the scalp Submit information to – [email protected]

Once approved for the trial, you will be provided with a link to purchase the Hairgen testing kit.

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Requisition Form

First Name –

Last Name -

Age -

1. Are you currently taking any prescription hair loss drugs? 1a) If so, what drugs and how long have you been using these drug(s)?

1b) Do you plan on continuing to use these drugs for the next 6 months? 2. Are you currently using any topical hair loss products?

2a) If so, what products and how long have you been using these products?

2b) Do you plan on continuing to use these products for the next 6 months?

3. Do you have other known health issues or allergies? (heart, thyroid, adrenal, endocrine issues, etc.) 4. What Norwood level of hairloss are you currently experiencing? If unsure, please refer to the following site for information on Norwood scales: http://hairloss.cyberatlantis.com/library/norwood_scale.php 5. Are you going to be making changes to your diet or exercise program in the next 6 months?

5a) If so, please explain in detail these changes. 6. Do you have someone that can take close-up pictures of your scalp during the next 6 months?

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The Goal of HairGen

The goal of HairGen is to reduce hair loss to non-MPB levels, while also creating a healthy scalp environment that may potentially promote thicker hair and/or regrowth.

The herbs used in HairGen are all wild-harvested, which, while more costly, ensures that each ingredient is of the very finest quality. All of the herbs are distilled into liquid extracts via pure grape ethanol, therefore, the formulation will be roughly 40-60% organic grape alcohol. Ethoxydiglycol/PS-20 will be used to help bypass the lipid layer of the scalp to ensure proper penetration to the hair follicle.

Ingredients...

Aloe Vera

Aloe Vera is an herb that can be beneficial for some forms of hair loss, and has been known to stimulate new growth. It is particularly beneficial to those that produce excessive amounts of scalp sebum. Further information on the benefits of topical Aloe Vera can be viewed at the following links:

http://www.aloesajten.com/aloe-vera-for-hair-loss.php

http://stylebell.wordpress.com/2008/04/18/another-reason-to-love-aloe-vera-hair-loss/

Pueraria Mirifica

Pueraria Mirifica (PM) is an herb grown in Northern Thailand that has been traditionally used by Thais as a "fountain of youth," both internally and externally. Topical estrogen has been shown to be effective for treating MPB in both men and women, albeit with side-effects:

http://www.androgeneticalopecia.com/hair-loss-treatments/topical-estrogen-pattern-baldness.shtml

Topical PM, on the other hand, acts as an estrogen mimicker due to its high miroestrol content, minus the side-effects caused by topical estrogen. Dr. Sandford Schwartz has researched PM for years, and his research, combined with the centuries of native Thai usage, has corroborated this claim. In fact, Dr. Sandford Schwartz has has sold his liquid PM extract formula to a well-known company in America to be distributed here for the purpose of hair regrowth. The formula consists exclusively of his liquid PM extract, by the name of Puresterol. Biobotanica is an independent U.S. distributor for Puresterol, and is our source of PM as well. You can read more about Puresterol at the following link:

http://www.puresterol.com

Your trial bottle will either contain 0%, 2.5%, or 5% Pueraria Mirifica throughout the duration of this trial. We are not sure if PM will neutralize the other ingredients, if it will enhance it, or if it will make no discernible difference. The idea behind the variable amount is to test the optimal quantity for HairGen.

Adenosine

Adenosine is well-known around internet forums as a chemical that can increase the expression of Vascular Endothelial Growth Factor (VEGF), which has been found to be effective at thickening/terminalizing thin and vellous hairs. The amount of Adenosine in the formulation will be 3%. To view a study on the effectiveness of Adenosine, check out the following link:

http://news.hairlosshelp.com/hair-loss-studies/adenosine-stimulates-hair-growth/

Sanguisorba Officinalis Extract

Sanguisorba Officinalis has an interesting method of action on the scalp that works in favor of preventing hair loss. Rather than reduce DHT, it inhibits Fibroblast Growth Factor-5 (FGF-5). FGF-5 is responsible for converting hairs from the Anagen (Growing) phase to the Telogen (Falling out) phase. By successfully inhibiting FGF-5, you can theoretically stop hair loss altogether. This, of course, does not apply to hairs currently in telogen phase prior to HairGen usage. You can view more information at the following link:

http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/200704/000020070407A0130088.php

Loquat Leaf Extract (Eriobotrya japonica)

The active component in Loquat Leaf Extract that yields promising results for hair loss is primarily Corosilic Acid. Corosilic Acid works in a similar manner to Sanguisorba Officinalis in that it regulates various growth factors when applied topically to the scalp. FGF-5 is downregulated (this works synergistically with Sanguisorba), while VEGF, FGF-7, and BMP-2, all of which are beneficial growth factors for hair loss, are upregulated. The following study offers further detailed information on the benefits of Loquat Leaf Extract and Corosilic Acid for hair loss:

http://www.personalcaremagazine.com/Story.aspx?Story=1911

Semen Coicis Extract (Coix Seed or Coicis Lachryma-Jobi)

Though not as well-documented as some of the other ingredients in the formula, Coicis Semen has shown promise in the hair loss field as a Type II 5alpha-reductase inhibitor. The following study contains Coicis Semen as one of the primary ingredients in a hairloss formulation:

http://kmbase.medric.or.kr/Main.aspx?d=KMBASE&m=VIEW&i=0363620040250010152

The next study refers to Thujae occidentalis semen, which is identical in action to Coicis Semen for our intents and purposes:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12670719?dopt=AbstractPlus

Swertia Chirata Extract

Swertia is effective as both an anti-inflammatory, and vasodilator. Topical application of Swertia can reduce shedding, while also encouraging thicker hair growth. Numerous hair loss formula patents have incorporated Swertia Chirata as a primary ingredient due to its Ayurvedic roots in hair loss treatment.

Red Panax Ginseng Extract

Red Panax Ginseng increases bloodflow and can stimulate hair follicles to encourage new hair growth. It has traditionally been used in Chinese medicine with success for thousands of years as a component in hair loss treatment. The following link has a large body of literature on uses for Red Panax Ginseng:

http://www.herbmed.org/Herbs/Herb108.htm

Sophora Flavescens Extract

Hair loss studies point towards Sophora Flavescens as not only a potent inhibitor of Type II 5alpha-reductase, but also as an important regulator of growth factors.

The following study found that Insulin Growth Factor-1 (IGF-1) and Keratinocyte Growth Factor (KGF), both growth factors integral for hair growth, were up-regulated:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12354419?dopt=Abstract

Toco-8

Toco-8 consists of the proper ratio of mixed Vitamin E tocotrienols that our bodies can make the best usage of. In a small study conducted by Primordial Performance, it was found that Toco-8 consumed internally can help in the fight against hair loss. Externally, it may be of even further benefit. Below is a link to a few live radio interviews with Primordial Performance President Eric Potratz regarding Toco-8 and the patented hair loss study:

http://www.primordialperformance.com/vbulletin/primordial-health/377-toco-8-balanced-tocotrienol-tocopherol-vitamin-e-supplement-radio-interview.html

Niacinamide (Niacin)

Topical Niacinamide has been shown to improve the condition of aged skin, helping to restore youthfulness and vitality. This may translate over to a healthier scalp that can improve the probability of thicker hair and potential regrowth. The following study demonstrates the effects of topical Niacinamide when applied to the face:

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/118769826/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0

Niacin also acts as a vasodilator, which is similar in action to Minoxidil (sans the side-effects). A description of Niacin's vasodilation effects can be found here:

http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/niacin.htm


Για να σας προλάβω.... για Αντιανδρογόνο χρησιμοποιούν το Pueraria Mirifica είναι φυτικό αλλά πολύ δυνατό είναι μιμητής των οιστρογόνων.
Καλλιεργείται στην Ταΰλάνδη βέβαια και χρησιμοποιείται εκεί εδώ και χιλιάδες χρόνια !
Pueraria Mirifica έχουν και πολλά γυναικεία προΐοντα αν το ψάξετε για την αύξηση του στήθους !
Αλλά υπάρχουν δύο τύποι του φυτού άλλο για γυναίκες και άλλο για άντρες ! [Μην μασάτε ;)]
Λένε ότι δεν έχει Παρενέργειες !!!

Και τα άλλα συστατικά του HairGen και το Adenosine και Niacin θεωρούνται πολύ καλλά !!!
 

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Σπύρος

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πως το βλέπεις tasos - αξίζει να συμμετέχουμε;!

ρωτάω,
επειδή το παρακολουθείς... :-\
 

Georgex6

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Απ: "Primordial Performance" ζητούνται εθελοντές για το νέο topical !

ναι αλλα λεει πως πρεπει να σταματησεις οτι περνεις για 6 μηνες
 

tasos

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Απ: "Primordial Performance" ζητούνται εθελοντές για το νέο topical !

Georgex6 είπε:
ναι αλλα λεει πως πρεπει να σταματησεις οτι περνεις για 6 μηνες

Ναι, αυτό θα τόνιζα Γιώργο.
Βέβαια πρόκειται για Δοκιμές και όχι κανονική κυκλοφορία.

Αλλά τώρα λένε ότι μόνο η Μινοξιδίλη θα ενοχλούσε και δεν θα έπρεπε να χρησιμοποιείται !!!


Ορίστε και before και After pictures.....επίσης απο δοκιμές
καθώς και όλο το thread

Προσωπικά πιστεύω θα είναι κάτι λίγο πιο δυνατό απο Revivo και Super Zix
 

baybars

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Απ: "Primordial Performance" ζητούνται εθελοντές για το νέο topical !

ΔΕΝ ΜΕ ΕΝΘΟΥΣΙΑΣΑΝ Κ ΠΟΛΥ ΤΑ ΑΠΟΤΕΛΕΣΜΑΤΑ ΑΠΟ ΤΙΣ ΦΩΤΟΓΡΑΦΙΕΣ...Κ ΔΕΝ ΠΙΣΤΕΥΩ ΟΤΙ ΑΞΙΖΕΙ ΝΑ ΠΕΙΡΑΜΑΤΙΣΤΟΥΜΕ ΜΕ ΤΟ ΚΕΦΑΛΙ ΜΑΣ ΓΙΑ ΤΟΣΟ ΛΙΓΑ ΛΕΦΤΑ...ANYWAY, ΟΠΟΙΟΣ ΘΕΛΕΙ ΔΟΚΙΜΑΖΕΙ
 

Σπύρος

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έκανα αίτηση και βλέπουμε - δεν με χαλάει να δοκιμάσω ;D
 

Παναγιωτης

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baybars είπε:
ΔΕΝ ΜΕ ΕΝΘΟΥΣΙΑΣΑΝ Κ ΠΟΛΥ ΤΑ ΑΠΟΤΕΛΕΣΜΑΤΑ ΑΠΟ ΤΙΣ ΦΩΤΟΓΡΑΦΙΕΣ...Κ ΔΕΝ ΠΙΣΤΕΥΩ ΟΤΙ ΑΞΙΖΕΙ ΝΑ ΠΕΙΡΑΜΑΤΙΣΤΟΥΜΕ ΜΕ ΤΟ ΚΕΦΑΛΙ ΜΑΣ ΓΙΑ ΤΟΣΟ ΛΙΓΑ ΛΕΦΤΑ...ANYWAY, ΟΠΟΙΟΣ ΘΕΛΕΙ ΔΟΚΙΜΑΖΕΙ

τουλαχιστον δεν βγαλαν φωτογραφιες με τρομερα αποτελεσματα
φωτογραφιες με τρομερα αποτελεσματα το μεγαλυτερο ποσοστο ειναι μουφα

ειναι αυτο που λεν οπου ακους πολλα κερασια παρε μικρο καλαθι

Σπύρος είπε:
έκανα αίτηση και βλέπουμε - δεν με χαλάει να δοκιμάσω ;D
μια διακοπη με τοσο μεγαλο χρονικο διαστημα απο ντοτα και λοιπα ισως σε χαλασει σπυρο !!

αλλα εσυ ξερεις καλυτερα για τον εαυτο σου ;D
 

Σπύρος

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είπαμε - για 1 εξάμηνο θα το ρίξουμε στα εναλλακτικά και μετά keep finasteriding ;D
 

Σπύρος

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Απ: "Primordial Performance" ζητούνται εθελοντές για το νέο topical !

λοιπόν,
με δέχτηκαν για πειραματόζωο ... ;D

"Dear HairGen applicant,



Thank you for filling out the HairGen requisition form. We have reviewed your information, and you have been accepted for the trial!



The date for the start of the trial has been tentatively pushed back to the end of June, and we will be providing you with more information as we get closer. Also, the original 30 dollar charge has been waived, so your participation in the trial is now free! Feel free to ask e-mail us with any questions you have, or check out some of the forums on http://www.primordialperformance.com/store/ :



http://www.primordialperformance.com/vbulletin/primordial-health/1033-hairgen-q-eric.html



http://www.primordialperformance.com/vbulletin/primordial-health/953-primordial-performance-now-accepting-volunteers-hairgen-trial.html



Also, if you have not sent us any information about your current diet or any pictures of your head and scalp, please do so as soon as you have a chance.



Thanks again for your interest in the trial, we are looking forward to providing you with the next generation of hair loss treatment.



Sincerely,

Dylan Udy

Primordial Rep"


οπότε μέχρι τότε,
ποιος ζει και ποιος...ΖΕΙ ΚΑΛΎΤΕΡΑ!!! :D
 

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αυτά είναι τα νέα από το μέτωπο...

Dear Hairgen Applicant,
Firstly, I would like to apologize for continued delays in this project and thank you for your patience and understanding.
As you may be aware, we decided to formulate a non-alcohol micelle-based delivery system for the Hairgen topical. This recent change in plans has forced us to reconsider our approach and focus on development of an entirely new delivery system for superior penetration, safety, cosmetic appeal and efficacy.
Following this change in formulation was a series of unexpected developmental, financial, and supply chain challenges that have caused further delays in the Hairgen project.
I would like to ensure you that we are continuing the development of Hairgen despite these challenges. As we continue to procure the necessary equipment and technology to move forward with the Hairgen formulation, we will keep you updated as we move closer to the official release date.
As development of the formulation continues we will continue evaluating and accepting participants for the trial. At this point, we have nearly 80 positions still available.
As compensation for the delays we have decided to offer the 6 month trial supply of Hairgen free of charge to our testers. (not including international shipping costs)
At this point our estimated ship date for the Hairgen samples is 10/1/2009 (Oct 1st)
Again, we appreciate your dedication to this large scale research project and hope you can join us for the trial.
Thank you.

Eric Potratz
President & Founder



Toll Free - 1-800-568-2924
Direct - 1-541-255-2900
Fax - 1-541-687-5942
Cell - 1-541-510-9399


Primordial Performance
1292 High Street
Eugene, OR 97401

www.primordialperformance.comhttp://http://http://
 

baybars

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ΜΕ ΛΙΓΑ ΛΟΓΙΑ ΣΠΥΡΟ, ΘΑ ΠΡΕΠΕΙ ΝΑ ΠΕΡΙΜΕΝΕΙΣ ΚΙ ΑΛΛΟ... :grandpa: :D
 

tasos

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Απ: "Primordial Performance" ζητούνται εθελοντές για το νέο topical !

Σπύρο,

μερικοί το πήραν κιόλας στα χέρια τους...

φωτογραφίες και πλήρης συστατικά....... και μάλιστα χωρίς οινόπνευμα και προπυλενογλικόλη

Τελείως φυτικό αλλά έχει και μινοξιδίλη μέσα...

Εγώ πάντως Σπύρο είμαι της άποψης να περιμένεις πρώτα να το δοκιμάσουν οι Αμερικάνοι και μετά

βγάζουμε συμπέρασμα !!!

Γιατί πάνω απ'ολα είναι δοκιμαστικό ακόμα !!!

Ολο το thread είναι εδώ

http://regrowth.com/hairloss-forums/viewthread.cfm?f=1&t=24443
 

Σπύρος

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δεν με ξαναενόχλησαν-ό,τι μαθαίνετε και εγώ από ποστ του εξωτερικού μαθαίνω... :chinscratch
 

Σπύρος

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σήμερα έλαβα αυτό :

Dear Hairgen Participants,
If you are receiving this email you have been approved for the Hairgen Regrowth Trial.
It’s now been about 10 weeks from our transition to our new headquarters and production facility, and we are finally back on our feet and ready to move forward in the Hairgen project. All final ingredients and production equipment have been procured and development is notching up for the highly anticipated trial bottles of Hairgen.
The pesticide free herbal ingredients have been sourced, and are of extremely high quality and potency. We will be extracting these herbs with a special designed extractor from Edenlabs which is known for producing the highest potency, broadest spectrum extracts in the world with their low temperature vacuum extraction process.
Within the next several weeks we will begin sending out release forms to our testers (you) and final instructions and guidelines for the testing. In return for providing the Hairgen product, we will be asking testers to allow us to market and advertise their (your) results obtained from the product.
We have also elected to supply all testers with a gentle and natural hair cleanser for use in this trial to minimize possible negative effects from overly harsh or oil stripping shampoos. This cleanser will be sodium laureth sulfate free and will consist of only high quality natural ingredients. More information on the cleanser will be available in the coming weeks.
Due to the number of participants in this trial we have decided to send out the first samples to those who registered first, and consider their feedback on initial tactile and cosmetic qualities of the products for possible adjustments for future samples.
At this point, we expect the first samples to be shipping out by late November.
NOTE - questions about the Hairgen Trial are being redirected to [email protected] which is being processed by an independent division of our company. The individual who is gathering and organizing information is Dylan Udy, who works offsite. Because of this, reply’s to emails may be delayed up to 7-10 days.
Again, I thank you for your participation and patience in the development of this project.
We will continue to update more frequently over the following weeks.

Eric Potratz
President & Founder
 

Σπύρος

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UPDATE –
As we began making headway on the Hairgen formula in October, we went through a month of financial setbacks in November, slowing further development of Hairgen.
It wasn’t until recently that we have been able to invest resources back into the development of Hairgen. Testers will still be receiving a 6 month supply of the Hairgen formula, as well as a natural cleanser and a diet outline. Further details on the testing protocol will be given in early 2010 as we get closer to releasing a final formula for testing.
Again, I’d like to apologize for another delay in the Hairgen project. We are anticipating finalizing the initial formula within the next couple months. We appreciate your patience in the matter.

NOTE –
Questions about the Hairgen Trial are being redirected to [email protected] which is being processed by an independent division of our company. The individual who is gathering and organizing information is Dylan Udy, who works offsite. Because of this, replies to e-mails may be delayed up to 7-10 days.
Again, I thank you for your participation and patience in the development of this project.

Eric Potratz

President & Founder
 

Jakard

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Απ: "Primordial Performance" ζητούνται εθελοντές για το νέο topical !

Σπύρος είπε:
UPDATE –
As we began making headway on the Hairgen formula in October, we went through a month of financial setbacks in November, slowing further development of Hairgen.
It wasn’t until recently that we have been able to invest resources back into the development of Hairgen. Testers will still be receiving a 6 month supply of the Hairgen formula, as well as a natural cleanser and a diet outline. Further details on the testing protocol will be given in early 2010 as we get closer to releasing a final formula for testing.
Again, I’d like to apologize for another delay in the Hairgen project. We are anticipating finalizing the initial formula within the next couple months. We appreciate your patience in the matter.

NOTE –
Questions about the Hairgen Trial are being redirected to [email protected] which is being processed by an independent division of our company. The individual who is gathering and organizing information is Dylan Udy, who works offsite. Because of this, replies to e-mails may be delayed up to 7-10 days.
Again, I thank you for your participation and patience in the development of this project.

Eric Potratz

President & Founder

Τι γινεται ρε σπυρο θεε με το νεο τοπικαλ ? στο φερανε ι ακομα να φανε δεν εχουνε ?
 
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